> Commentators on this web site work for some of the most evil organizations on the planet and have beliefs that 95% of the population rejects. You can safely ignore the YC cohort of devs and be fine.
Why do none of these few constrained ways to view this complex situation (nice gig if you can get it, agenda setting) include "and also this looks a heck of a lot like the stuff that the LW folks have been warning about for years and maybe we should slow down or stop?"
That’s meant to be captured by point one with the model just being that advanced but more of a negative spin on it. If I felt option 1 was more likely, I think I’d have to agree with you there. Still, there currently are some gaps with that view in my opinion.
> what force would continue to drive you even after your kids have grown up and there's nothing of value you can do for another human?
Building things I'm interested in with and for people I care about. That might look like code or gardening or relationships or all sorts of things. There's so much to do. So many things to want to get out of bed for, and for the days when there aren't, slow cozy mornings are nice too.
Why do you suppose there will be nothing of value you can do for another human just because the machines are better/faster at most things? Just caring about someone without being programmed to will seem to become quite the most valuable thing?
Yes, caring for people might be the one thing that remains. I can't imagine gardening or programming would be very satisfying in post-scarcity-land where you're inevitably doing something entirely useless compared to what machines would do.
But ... I'm already not a very great gardener? Certainly not compared to an industrial megafarm? No where near as efficient?
And it is still fun!
We already live in the world where machines (or at least cyborgs, man + machine) garden better than humans, and yet there are human gardeners out here pulling weeds by hand, digging in the dirt for fun, happy to share our often funky-looking vegetables with friends.
> TL;DR: AI assisted coding, when used responsibly, is not banned, however one-shotting something via vibe-coding and hosting it as a complete project, is.
On Tuesday I was working on my Braille 'N Speak emulator[0], an ancient Z180-based accessible notetaker for the blind. I wanted a z180 emulation library that wasn't z180-emu (GPL) and that I could use on the web via wasm, on my phone, and would have a Python binding.
Of course, this is a perfect sort of job for an agent with a verification loop, so I went off and researched if there were any standard conformance suites for z80/z180. Turns out there are a ton! I wired up my verification loops, fired off /goal, and sat back. Now, I have my library[1].
Was "AI assisted coding" "used responsibly?"
Should this sort of thing be allowed? Why or why not?
It's about control. It's always been about control. The moderators of this project would happily throw you under the bus if you ever in any way displeased them while being an AI user.
I think this is the main drive behind this. Make it easier to get rid of people you don't like/don't welcome on your platform without making it explicit, because that could surface some biases of theirs.
Nope, personally this enters full vibe-coding territory for me, and I won't approach this code with a 30 feet pole isolated in a container running in a VM.
Sorry, but seriously.
If it works (and we constantly see LLMs cheat to pass tests), and helps someone, more power to you and them, but no, this is what vibe-coding squarely is, and what Codeberg explicitly excludes.
I see two big problems with that codebase:
- No human, incl. you can modify this meaningfully.
- The AI wrote it won't be able to touch it again, too.
So it's write-once software, and this is the biggest problem with vibe-coded software.
> The prices are nowhere near each other. K3’s API runs $3 per million input tokens and $15 per million output. Claude’s top model costs $10 and $50 for the same units.
And this is the point where your internal compiler should have started shouting 'Type Error'
Notice the trick here?
> Then there’s the fine print. Claude couldn’t sustain Fable access on the twenty dollar plan, so they turned it off, and the plan quietly falls back to Opus.
> When Edward Snowden revealed that Somebody Important had been taking an interest after all, the tech bros, who had grown up free of adult supervision, felt betrayed and started a campaign to encrypt everything and anything so that prying eyes could never again look them in the cards.
TIL: Phil Zimmermann was a "tech bro" and had a time machine.
The factors of millions of men (workers) dying in war while the country itself was untouched, and all of Europe being bombed, leading to cheap land, increased demand for labor, and a powerful dollar. We just have to nuke Europe and cull a bit of our own people too and we'll be in the golden age again. Or we have to get used to it.
> The factors of millions of men (workers) dying in war while the country itself was untouched,
Less than half a million Americans died in WW2. For American demographics, the war was a footnote, unlike the utter devastation it inflicted on Germany, Poland, Yugoslavia, the USSR.
They burned non-renewable resources at an unsustainable pace, like nothing ever seen before in history, resources that took millions of years for the Earth to produce, gone in a century, to make themselves wealthy - among other things.
But a huge portion of what they burned those resources to produce was energy—both to generate electricity, and to power their vehicles.
We now have renewable energy sources for both of these things spinning up faster than ever. It won't be all that long before we can generate a majority of our energy with clean power that doesn't require consuming any non-renewable resources.
No; much more important differences between then and now are the top marginal tax rates and the labor power.
Watching a company I respect turn to the classic "first hit's free" dealer technique does make me feel a certain way.
On one hand the thing they are offering is legit great, and how do you get people to use/understand a whole new type of thing without offering them some for free?
On the other hand ... you really gonna get people used to an extra 50% then take it away? When this has been most of your new signups experience with the system?
The predictable pushback when people realize the workflows they developed over these two months are no longer viable will be ... quite something.
I wonder if their projections of load are/aren't turning out as planned, and where they might be being safe to not have as many outages, when they don't happen, they are left with extra capacity.
Or discovering different parts of the year have less demand than expected (like summer holidays).
This is not to discount anything you're saying, only additional factors.
Anecdotally, I’m seeing a lot of people I work with on vacation in America and Europe. That might be dampening inference demand right as Anthropic’s xAI contracts power up.
> When I learned that this website is by the same people who gave us AI 2027, I immediately thought about the Wikipedia page on doomsday predictions.
Then, you opened the page and read it and realized that this prediction was contingent? You know what a conditional is (I would assume) if this, than that?
Then you realized that the only reason you were posting this comment was as a sort of silly gotcha "Oh look at the guys who keep increasing the number" instead of talking about the differences between the scenarios?
1. Why are you here?
2. What is the purpose of this comment?
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